DMOZ Corruption

Emil at 6:55 am on Saturday, December 31, 2005

If you are a webmaster then you have probably heard of DMOZ, the supposedly open directory project, but because of complaints by webmasters of sometimes waiting years for a listing, while other sites where being listed multiple times within a month or less, people had begun suspecting corruption amongst DMOZ editors…

Nowadays DMOZ corruption is almost an accepted fact by the webmastering community, as some editors have been caught selling DMOZ services on eBay for as much as $700. Here is even a public blog of a well, corrupt DMOZ editor, here is a little taste of what you can find there…

…log in to one of my dmoz accounts using firefox to spoof the OS and browser. Then I delete a handful of listings starting from the top without even looking at them. The next batch I include but I make sure to drain the listings of any useful keywords. The next bunch I keep on hold for the next time. I have a few listings that have been on hold for, I kid you not, eighteen months.

Also here you can find an automotive site listed 26 times in highly competitive categories, in cases such as this corruption is just evident…

DMOZ Corruption

So as with everything that out grows its functional capacity, DMOZ, is on its way down along with the worth of its once-precious listing…

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Comment by Christefano

As much as I wanted to support the Open Directory Project in the past, I learned that it was impossible when they simply don’t accept help from qualified netizens. My applications were rejected twice with no explanation given either time. This suprised me to no end, especially considering that the subject had rusted for so long that half the links didn’t work.

December 31, 2005 at 1:51 pm
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Comment by George

Most editors just register so they can list their own sites deny competitors then vanish never to be seen again and let the category rot.

December 31, 2005 at 1:59 pm
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Comment by Patrick

I’ve witnessed corruption myself first hand. Blatant, blatant stuff. Vague description:

We had 2 listings. 1 for our site, 1 for our forums. 1 in category A, 1 in category B. His site was listed in category A, as well. He removed our site from category B and added his site to category B. So, now we have 1 listing and he has 2. If we can’t have 2 listings, cool. But, why can he?

It’s been reported. Talked to an editor. No one seems to care.

December 31, 2005 at 11:08 pm
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Comment by Jonathan

I’ve heard a lot about this. Thank goodness it’s not valued by Google as much as before.

January 1, 2006 at 12:26 am
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Comment by Yousuf Philips

I must agree also, I tried getting listed as an editor 4 times and finally got in on the 4th and then after improving my section, i got sacked. Well I am looking for some good editors to help me with a regional directory, so if anyone is interested please drop me a line as i need around 6 to 10 people. Email me - philipz85 at hotmail dot com with the subject ‘Directory Editors’.

January 1, 2006 at 4:44 am
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Comment by Tommy Carlier

I’m editor of the Dutch computer programming category, and I think you’re giving a wrong image here. You’re making it sound as if all editors are corrupted. This is far from the truth. DMOZ has very strict rules. If you want to be an editor, you’ll have to prove some expertise, and you have to give a list of all YOUR websites and online articles. If you want to remove a site from the DMOZ listing, you have to give a valid reason. Break the rules, and they’ll kick you out without mercy.

January 1, 2006 at 6:36 pm
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Comment by Emil

Nobody is saying that they are all corrupt, but that there is a lot of them out there…

Good for you Tommy, but I think DMOZ is a lost cause if you are seriously trying to do something good, corrupt people like that have changed people’s views of DMOZ and that cannot be changed…

January 1, 2006 at 11:03 pm
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Comment by kevin

DMOZ is a lost cause. Unless they bring in cooperative editing for say 2 or 3 editors per category. Its a lot harder for 2 people to be corrupted, if they don’t know who the other author is!

January 2, 2006 at 1:09 am
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Comment by Alan

This has been going on for a long time now. I thought the reason why DMOZ was slipping in ratings was because of this.

January 2, 2006 at 8:26 am
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Comment by Mark

My site is there at least, but ya, this DMOZ thing is getting way of hand.

January 3, 2006 at 10:12 am
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Comment by DmozSucks

Dmoz sucks big time. sooner or later dmoz will collapse from the weight of the huge egos of its retarded editors.

January 6, 2006 at 12:02 pm
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Comment by Anonymous DMOZ Editor

I am a DMOZ editor and am surprised and annoyed at the amount of flack the ODP has been copping over the issue of corrupt editors, and new listing latency. It’s easy to spot inproprietory within the directory, and if you started deleting sites without giving a good reason, you’d be raising alarm bells all over the place.

I’d say it’s a fair bet that most people who apply to be editors are doing so because they want to get their site listed, and don’t care about anything else. I suspect that if they manage to get approved, they add their own site and then disappear off the face of the planet. The categories within the directory are quite strict, and if you’re applying to be an editor you’ve got to think very carefully about what you put on your application. If DMOZ editors wrote feedback to every unsuccessful editing applicant it would serve to assist those with ill intentions and would take valuable, volunteered time away from the process of editing.

If you’ve tried to become an editor and been rejected, of if you’ve tried to submit a site to the directory, it’s quite likely your submission had basic errors, and you were probably submitting sites to the wrong category. I’ve watched seasoned web professionals try and submit sites to DMOZ and have absolutely no idea what the right category is. They then go off and complain that the editors are corrupt.

Is there corruption in DMOZ? Of course, there’s corruption, even on a minor level in almost anything - a local cop getting free donuts is a very basic level of corruption, but within DMOZ, it’s an awful lot harder to be corrupt and not get noticed than most people realise.

People claiming a high level in incompetence in the ODP should put up some decent evidence, or shut up. And on that note, I visited the dmozsucks.org website (referred to in the previous post), and couldn’t help but notice that the forums are almost empty.

February 6, 2006 at 2:24 pm
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Comment by Anonymous DMOZ Editor

And, incidentally, I can’t help but notice that autopictures.com is not listed in any of the categories shown in the screen shot example at the beginning of this article. The http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Autos/Makes_and_Models/Chevrolet/Beretta/ category was edited on December 27 and on January 25, and none of those edits show a listing for autopictures.com.

February 6, 2006 at 2:36 pm
Comment by Edwin

All i have to say is Dmoz sucks.

July 19, 2006 at 12:23 pm
Comment by rhys

It seems nothing changes with dmoz.

Do all the dmoz volunteers realise that the actions of the minority undermine the whole principle of dmoz and that as soon as a viable alternative comes along then dmoz is sunk?

May 10, 2007 at 10:56 pm

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